Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for?

Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even.

Cloaking griefers are not players in the whole sense of the word.

They are spoiling the game's strategy because in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all and that is unfair.

You have balanced many other things in the game and for every armor or shield or power supply there is a way to defeat or enhance, but when it comes to cloaking and going afk nothing can be done and many players are throwing good money after bad on this game to log in and find yet again gametime wasted day after day by the same old cloaky-griefers.

DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!!

Raj.

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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I think you may be missing the point.

Now read it slowly so you miss nothing.

The mechanic in the gameplay is undefeatable.

Nothing else in the game is so totally one-sided.

Therefore it is unbalanced.

I am requesting balance.

Raj.

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Originally by: Lance Fighter

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damn, wheres AFK Cloaker when you need him..

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Originally by: Mr SmartGuy

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Every time I see something from the troll/repeated-to-hell-and-back list of suggestions, I'm going to post the same chunk of text and just bold the one from the original post just so that OP can see how unoriginal/boring/<random insult about intelligence> he is. Enjoy your read:

Lag, nerfing supercapitals, ability to paint your ship, changing security statuses of the systems, fixing factional warfare, removing local, nerfing afk-cloakers, removing learning skills, adding AB bonus to assault frigs, boosting blasters, boosting rockets, fixing bounties, adding PvP arena, NAP coalitions, improving UI, boosting piracy, nerfing piracy, changing wardec mechanic in highsec against carebears, boosting destroyers, removing of t2 BPOs, nerfing of ECM, changing of your in game character name, adding of small anchorable structures, redesigning POSes, chainging of cyno effect, adding trails, walking in stations and ships, development of DUST for PC, not developing DUST at all, developing Incarna, not developing Incarna at all, changing CONCORD, fixing planetary interaction, training multiple characters per account, expanding 0.0 space, making bookmarks visible in space, nerfing insurance for suicide gankers, (not)adding RL ads in game, making of highsec carebear heaven free of PvP, donating destroyed PLEXes to some random charity organisation, removing macro miners/ratters/mission runners, nerfing/removing ninja salvaging/looting, adding capital ships in empire again, nerfing Dramiel, allowing POS theft, fixing the forums

and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else.

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Originally by: Mr SmartGuy

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Every time I see something from the troll/r
and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else.

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It's a fair request.. But please your donations are attracting more reads per reply. I just want an unfair game mechanic balanced out. Why wouldn't you?

(No, dont bore me...)

Raj.

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Originally by: Lance Fighter

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Originally by: Lance Fighter

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any alliance worth its salt can deal with an afk cloaker. Nuff said.

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No they cannot... You cannot tell me how nor can anyone.

There is no counter tactic.

It's unbalanced.

Raj.

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Says it all really.

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Originally by: Scott Ryder

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Originally by: Kireiina

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It is poor game design that a cloaked ship can project force while AFK with no practical means of retaliation. Either there should be some way of tracking down a poor or AFK cloaker or the cloak effect needs some sort of maximum duration.

But, eh, it's CCP so maybe they'll do something about it in a couple of years.

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Either that or people could stop whining about it and playing the game as it is?

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If we play the game as it is it will NEVER get better, thankfully, stooges like yourself have no say in the ongoing development of this game.

Raj.

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Originally by: Tippia

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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I repeat there is NO way to defeat a Cloaky Greifer

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Yes there is: don't let him grief you. It's really that simple.

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This is just a sound byte worthless in actual content and not applicable to the fact that Cloaks are utterly imbalanced and that they are the only tactic in the game other players can do NOTHING about. (Including yourself..)

If you are never concerned about a Cloaked ship in 0.0 then you are a fool or a liar.

Raj.

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Originally by: Destruct0

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I think we should all bring 1 cloaky ship to the op's home system. Who's with me? :P

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Originally by: Riverbane

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Simple solution, require cloaking modules to require alot of cap to keep running. If those people are PVP fit then they will only be able to remained cloaked for 5-10mins at a time forcing them to what they fit their ship for and what they went out to do - PVP. If they stay in the system too long while cloaked they will be vulnerable and be able to be hunted down and killed. If they want to perma cloak in a system they still can but will be forced put a bunch mods on to become cap stable thus making them worthless pvp wise. It would force people to learn how to fly their cloaky ship vs thinking they are awsome at pvp because they sat afk in a system for 5hrs and killed a solo hulk

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Originally by: DNSBLACK

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How to kill a griefing cloaker:

1. Wait till he decloaks.

2. Fire Gun or missle.

3. Tank his damage out put.

4. If he has friends come in make sure you have friends who will come to your rescue.

5. Fight it out. PVP is another term for it.

6. Retreat if you think you are going to lose or do what so many do so well from high sec die in a nice explosion and learn from the engagement and try again.

Can I have the isk please or is that to complicated for you

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Lol you are funny wait till he decloaks.

Yeah like here I am cloaked thers someone looking for me.

So I decloak.. Haahahahahaha. Noob.

Raj.

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Originally by: Razzor Death

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers

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ahahahahahahaha omg you're terrible, really you dont belong in 0.0 go back to high sec.

Difference between a Carebear alliance/corp and a pvp alliance/corp.

Cloaky griefer comes into system - Carebears dock up and cry like little ***gots.

Cloaky griefer comes into system - pvps fleet up and send out a bait ship whilst they sit around him in recons waiting for him to bite, After they realise there is no bite they determine he is AFK and everyone continues to make money but in fleet ready to react to any recons or black ops dropped.

You are litrally the meaning of terrible and you don't belong out of high sec.

Get out.

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Lol pathetic and not addressing the thread in the least.

The thread points to (Much to many folks's discomfort..) the imbalance that Cloaky Griefing is as a tactic.

there is no strategy that can be used to defeat it even your above very up-front but totally inadequate response would be useless and where there is a pos or no pos no station would be worse than sh+t..

Lets hope guys like you still keep coming to be knocked down.

Raj.

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Originally by: Riedle

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I would lay money that you would never say that me or anyone face to face because your'e a cheapshot yellowbacked griefer in the forums only.

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Careful, OP is tough guy in RL

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even.

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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox

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Thats not too much too ask and cloakers can still get an hour or 2 or maybe 3 from their skillset which by any standards is reasonable.

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Originally by: CCP Adida

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Moved from General Discussion

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Originally by: Myz Toyou

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Originally by: AFK Cloaker

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Point on AFK Cloaker, someone help me in belt IX-3, need more dps !!!!!!

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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik

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Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik on 03/09/2010 12:47:13
Ok. Would anyone care to explain how this thread got 11 pages in one day? It's not like the idea is new or original.

BTW, I'm against the change of cloaking OP suggested, but that's my personal preference.

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Originally by: AFK Griefer

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Originally by: AFK Griefer

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I am not my brothers keeper. You seem to rage like those in local, I find this a blessing.

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